little surprised we have taken note of the allegations, which make the group 170 »Veranstalter_innen the demonstration against the anti-Semitic club impossible - also left" in the Zeck rises No. 154th On the occasion of the documentation of their rejected by the Veranstalter_innen speech by stating "the censor our speech by" the allegedly "just like any other ... been the preparation committee submitted "was, was a "Insolence" and a "destructive political action" that they leave "doubt the motives of the organizing."
The group 170 has not supported the demonstration call nor participated in the preparatory meetings. Of the existence of the group we have experienced, as we in the Alliance meeting on 8.12. their interest was focused on 13.12. to give a speech on the 'Assign the arguments of the call would be criticized'. the text of the speech was made the groups involved three days before the demonstration by e-mail distribution list available - at a time when, as a substantive discussion (as it was passed over other contentious posts quite) to think no more. Instead of several groups, some with detailed justifications, veto placed .
The interpretation of the events at the Barmbeker anti-Nazi demo, 31.1.2004, was noted in passing, just one of several contentious issues. One of the peculiarities of the debate on the left anti-Semitism is of course time and again that for sheer excitement, even the simplest facts are not taken seriously - here for example, that the call of the alliance at all from the beatings to which Israel and U.S. flags are talking about. is instead discussed by the attack on the kp berlin and her transparent "Germany is thinking Auschwitz," which had taken place before any "national flags" had aroused the minds of thinking - see http://phase2.nadir.org/rechts . php? article = 196 & print .
Just curious though, is that even an imaginary one criticism frequently resulting in that criticized make every effort to post a version for reasons that it is justified. Their campaign against " anti-German historical distortions " namely the group says 170 in a thank you " to the anti-fascist comrades " can culminate need to which the Barmbeker Demo " have blocked the encroachment of anti-German provocateurs " . But not matter what one thinks of anti-German hegemony in anti-fascist alliance demonstrations: Who would like to thank people, the Israeli flag at " Intifada " - and " murderer, murderer " connect-call in the mess only proves that even a clear statement against anti-Semitism before the cronyism protects Antisemit_innen.
Had the group 170 its planned review in advance of the demonstration, possibly as a separate call, published, would we have plenty angry still about the contained argument for free public places - and are still on the rejection of the autonomous lethargy, as it is predominantly in relation to the left anti-Semitism, happy. As a speech but had not been good for the text to the mobilization of the scene even opening a debate on many boos and some " Hear, hear! " could go. For this reason alone seemed puzzling, what had promised the group 170 of their desires. Equally puzzling to us, appeared as a political but hopefully not totally inexperienced group was able to hit upon the idea of a demonstration is something of a Speakers' Corner, where, without any substantive discussion in advance, can take everyone adds the word.
the indignant complaint of the group 170 on the organizing that have otherwise seen, is not just a little embarrassing, it ensures that their initiative will fit into the scheme exactly equidistant left again, she was originally the one asking the question.
We would therefore propose instead prefer to talk about rights, governance and sovereignty over discourse to argue that what it's worth to argue: the dissent in the case. To this end, we propose a public debate with Vertreter_innen of us and the group 170th
alliance against unreasonable Hamburg, February 2010
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